Comments on: Treating Drug Addiction with Prometa http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/ How to make healthy choices for natural healing and wellness. Explore natural remedies and spiritual healing. Thu, 17 May 2012 21:33:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: admin http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-34838 admin Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:28:35 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-34838 Thanks for the update, Jim. I will read over it in more detail later and respond. Look forward to the email update too. Thanks for the update, Jim. I will read over it in more detail later and respond. Look forward to the email update too.

]]> By: Jim D. http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-34833 Jim D. Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:07:25 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-34833 <p><p>Neva: Will send you an update email in the next few days. </p><br /> <p>Hythiam is reportedly approaching contractual arrangements with a number of Managed Care Organizations to provide their high-utilizer substance-dependent (SD) members with an integrated approach to managing SD illness (Catasys). </p><br /> <p>Catasys includes a medical intervention (e.g. Prometa, if appropriate), a program of psycho-social counseling, and follow-up care coaching to keep the member engaged in treatment and building a healthier lifestyle. </p><br /> <p>Through Catasys, Hythiam is essentially playing "truth or dare" with MCO's on the supposition that they can take their most difficult SD members, improve their mental and physical health, and reduce the cost burden on the system, in terms of both behavioral as well as medical expenditures. </p><br /> <p>It seems a bit sad that in the end it all boils down to economics, but it does. On the bright side, the arrival of the Wellstone Domenici Substance Dependence and Mental Health Parity Law greatly incentivizes MCO's to deal with these patients and costs in innovative ways as the new law appears to put them on the hook for almost unlimited costs in this area. </p><br /> <p>All of this has taken much longer than it intuitively seems that it should, but Hythiam continues to plug away at confronting and treating SD in new, more effective ways. If public reports are true, Hythiam at last appears to be on the cusp of making a major impact in this area. Who would have thought that we'd be using the words Managed Care and innovation in the same sentence.. </p><br /> <p>With Catasys, Hythiam has approached addiction treatment in a broader and more integrated way that will hopefully provide more effective treatment options to patients and families struggling with SD. And while it seems a long journey to here, at least it's a battle worth fighting, don't you think? </p><br /> <p>Thanks for your continuing interest.. good luck, jim</p></p> <p>jdorsey<br /> at<br /> ryanmiller dot com</p> <p>Neva: Will send you an update email in the next few days. </p>
<p>Hythiam is reportedly approaching contractual arrangements with a number of Managed Care Organizations to provide their high-utilizer substance-dependent (SD) members with an integrated approach to managing SD illness (Catasys). </p>
<p>Catasys includes a medical intervention (e.g. Prometa, if appropriate), a program of psycho-social counseling, and follow-up care coaching to keep the member engaged in treatment and building a healthier lifestyle. </p>
<p>Through Catasys, Hythiam is essentially playing “truth or dare” with MCO’s on the supposition that they can take their most difficult SD members, improve their mental and physical health, and reduce the cost burden on the system, in terms of both behavioral as well as medical expenditures. </p>
<p>It seems a bit sad that in the end it all boils down to economics, but it does. On the bright side, the arrival of the Wellstone Domenici Substance Dependence and Mental Health Parity Law greatly incentivizes MCO’s to deal with these patients and costs in innovative ways as the new law appears to put them on the hook for almost unlimited costs in this area. </p>
<p>All of this has taken much longer than it intuitively seems that it should, but Hythiam continues to plug away at confronting and treating SD in new, more effective ways. If public reports are true, Hythiam at last appears to be on the cusp of making a major impact in this area. Who would have thought that we’d be using the words Managed Care and innovation in the same sentence.. </p>
<p>With Catasys, Hythiam has approached addiction treatment in a broader and more integrated way that will hopefully provide more effective treatment options to patients and families struggling with SD. And while it seems a long journey to here, at least it’s a battle worth fighting, don’t you think? </p>
<p>Thanks for your continuing interest.. good luck, jim</p>

jdorsey
at
ryanmiller dot com

]]> By: admin http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-9949 admin Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:38:17 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-9949 ps on insurance question for prometa drug treatments.... I can't find anything current on this topic. The most recent that talked specifically about Blue Cross and Blue Shield considering covering the prometa drug program through insurance was this article way back in 2007: http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/politics/2007/12/08/interesting_national_story_about_the_pro and that article was just referring to New York and New Jersey that were considering covering prometa drug treatments at the time. Thanks for bringing this up. I'll do some more digging and see if I can find more info and will also follow up with Jim. ps on insurance question for prometa drug treatments….

I can’t find anything current on this topic. The most recent that talked specifically about Blue Cross and Blue Shield considering covering the prometa drug program through insurance was this article way back in 2007:

http://blogs.thenewstribune.com/politics/2007/12/08/interesting_national_story_about_the_pro

and that article was just referring to New York and New Jersey that were considering covering prometa drug treatments at the time.

Thanks for bringing this up. I’ll do some more digging and see if I can find more info and will also follow up with Jim.

]]> By: admin http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-9947 admin Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:01:43 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-9947 Robert: I was just thinking about this post a day ago. Wondering why I never heard anything about prometa anymore. I have not gotten an update from Jim but I think I may still have his email addy in my address book so when I get time (I'm traveling right now and have limited time for posting) I'll see if I can get him to update the information on the insurance companies stand on prometa. Thanks for your post. Robert:

I was just thinking about this post a day ago. Wondering why I never heard anything about prometa anymore. I have not gotten an update from Jim but I think I may still have his email addy in my address book so when I get time (I’m traveling right now and have limited time for posting) I’ll see if I can get him to update the information on the insurance companies stand on prometa.

Thanks for your post.

]]> By: robert http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-9877 robert Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:28:54 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-9877 <p>I just found this thread today 7/7/09 and was interested if Jim D could provide an update from his last post in Aug 08. I would be curious to know if the insurance companies he named, BLUECROSS, and CIGNA have followed through and funded the treatment for their programs, and whether the public prison systems have gotten behind the treatment program as well. It seems the treatment has a lot of potential to do great good, and when I first heard about it on 60 minutes I had high hopes, but it seems that the momentum may have been lost as it is now rarely mentioned in the news.</p> I just found this thread today 7/7/09 and was interested if Jim D could provide an update from his last post in Aug 08. I would be curious to know if the insurance companies he named, BLUECROSS, and CIGNA have followed through and funded the treatment for their programs, and whether the public prison systems have gotten behind the treatment program as well. It seems the treatment has a lot of potential to do great good, and when I first heard about it on 60 minutes I had high hopes, but it seems that the momentum may have been lost as it is now rarely mentioned in the news.

]]> By: admin http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5288 admin Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:54:11 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5288 sanjeppu: This is a thread on treating drug addiction with prometa. Not sure why you commented on compulsive overeating except that it is also an addictive behavior. Oprah had some overweight teens on her show recently and one of the best questions they asked these teens is "What are you really hungry for" because, in cases of obesity where there is not an underlying medical cause, food isn't it. Food fills some sort of other need and if that need can be identified and filled in a healthier way, then the overeating can stop. sanjeppu:

This is a thread on treating drug addiction with prometa. Not sure why you commented on compulsive overeating except that it is also an addictive behavior.

Oprah had some overweight teens on her show recently and one of the best questions they asked these teens is “What are you really hungry for” because, in cases of obesity where there is not an underlying medical cause, food isn’t it. Food fills some sort of other need and if that need can be identified and filled in a healthier way, then the overeating can stop.

]]> By: sanjeppu http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5285 sanjeppu Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:50:26 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5285 <p>An individual suffering from compulsive overeating disorder engages in frequent episodes of uncontrolled eating, or bingeing, during which they may feel frenzied or out of control, often consuming food past the point of being comfortably full. Bingeing in this way is generally followed by feelings of guilt and depression. Unlike individuals with bulimia, compulsive overeaters do not attempt to compensate for their bingeing with purging behaviors such as fasting, laxative use or vomiting. Compulsive overeaters will typically eat when they are not hungry. Thier obsession is demonstrated in that they spend excessive amounts of time and thought devoted to food, and secretly plan or fantasize about eating alone. Compulsive overeating usually leads to weight gain and obesity, but not everyone who is obese is also a compulsive overeater.<br /> ------------------------------------------------------<br /> sanjeppu</p> admin note: promotional link removed. An individual suffering from compulsive overeating disorder engages in frequent episodes of uncontrolled eating, or bingeing, during which they may feel frenzied or out of control, often consuming food past the point of being comfortably full. Bingeing in this way is generally followed by feelings of guilt and depression. Unlike individuals with bulimia, compulsive overeaters do not attempt to compensate for their bingeing with purging behaviors such as fasting, laxative use or vomiting. Compulsive overeaters will typically eat when they are not hungry. Thier obsession is demonstrated in that they spend excessive amounts of time and thought devoted to food, and secretly plan or fantasize about eating alone. Compulsive overeating usually leads to weight gain and obesity, but not everyone who is obese is also a compulsive overeater.
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]]> By: admin http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5270 admin Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:56:43 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5270 I agree that an extended drug treatment program is the best way to go for any deeply engrained drug addiction. Removing oneself from the drug community, and even the well-meaning pressure of family and friends, can give one breathing space to get underneath the craving for the drug to what's missing in the way life is being lived. Also, drug withdrawal can be physically challenging and sometimes dangerous so it's good to be in an environment where everyone is equipped to handle that. However, extended drug programs are also very expensive so not everyone can afford one. I'd love to see that change so that the extended drug treatment option could be available to more people. I agree that an extended drug treatment program is the best way to go for any deeply engrained drug addiction. Removing oneself from the drug community, and even the well-meaning pressure of family and friends, can give one breathing space to get underneath the craving for the drug to what’s missing in the way life is being lived.

Also, drug withdrawal can be physically challenging and sometimes dangerous so it’s good to be in an environment where everyone is equipped to handle that.

However, extended drug programs are also very expensive so not everyone can afford one. I’d love to see that change so that the extended drug treatment option could be available to more people.

]]> By: Drug Addiction Treatment http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5266 Drug Addiction Treatment Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:47:28 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-5266 <p>The extended drug treatment care program offers a supportive, sober, transitional living environment for individuals who have abstained from alcohol and drugs for thirty days or more. The program is designed for patients in early recovery from drug or alcohol addiction. Drug abusers must get benefit from additional, sober structure and support after successfully completing an addition treatment program.<br /> <br /> admin note: promotional link removed. I normally do not link to ad sites or sites that do not provide substantial information that I feel will be beneficial to my readers. The main reason I link to sites is because they provide substantial, original content here on the blog. This way, I feel my readers can read enough about them before going to the website to not waste their time if it isn't something they need in the drug addiction recovery.</p> The extended drug treatment care program offers a supportive, sober, transitional living environment for individuals who have abstained from alcohol and drugs for thirty days or more. The program is designed for patients in early recovery from drug or alcohol addiction. Drug abusers must get benefit from additional, sober structure and support after successfully completing an addition treatment program.

admin note: promotional link removed. I normally do not link to ad sites or sites that do not provide substantial information that I feel will be beneficial to my readers.

The main reason I link to sites is because they provide substantial, original content here on the blog. This way, I feel my readers can read enough about them before going to the website to not waste their time if it isn’t something they need in the drug addiction recovery.

]]> By: admin http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-4827 admin Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:39:49 +0000 http://healthychoices.askahealer.com/2007/12/10/treating-drug-addiction-with-prometa/#comment-4827 ps. Also noted elsewhere that Soma withdrawal and soma overdose seem to have one symptom in common, which is problems with physical coordination. This is referred to by some as the Soma Coma. Anything prevelant enough to have a nickname is usually pretty common so if you are having trouble walking, check your soma dosage, talk to your doctor and rule out Soma Coma. If you take too much soma, you can have trouble even walking and, when coming off soma, the same symptom seems to be possible. Again, I'm not a doctor and even a general practitioner may have limited knowledge of specific types of drug addiction. Your best course of action, should you suspect soma addiction is to find a doctor who specializes in addiction, as well as discussing your prescription with both your current doctor and your pharmacist. ps. Also noted elsewhere that Soma withdrawal and soma overdose seem to have one symptom in common, which is problems with physical coordination. This is referred to by some as the Soma Coma. Anything prevelant enough to have a nickname is usually pretty common so if you are having trouble walking, check your soma dosage, talk to your doctor and rule out Soma Coma.

If you take too much soma, you can have trouble even walking and, when coming off soma, the same symptom seems to be possible. Again, I’m not a doctor and even a general practitioner may have limited knowledge of specific types of drug addiction. Your best course of action, should you suspect soma addiction is to find a doctor who specializes in addiction, as well as discussing your prescription with both your current doctor and your pharmacist.

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