Flu advice for the unvaccinated

Staying well during vaccine season

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Vaccination Nation Risks for the Unvaccinated

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I am not about to get into a debate about vaccination vs not being vaccinated. I’m over it. Most I talk to believe that getting your flu shot is just good common sense. So, go ahead and get your flu shot. Just stay away from me for three days afterwards, please.

I’m also not going to debate whether or not flu shot vaccines result in shedding. My own experience says they do. My roommate gets her flu shot. A few days later, she’s sick. A day or two later, I’m sick. It’s not a placebo affect because she doesn’t even tell me when she gets her shot each year, despite my asking her to do that. It’s happened too many times for me to ignore the timing.

The vaccine industry says shedding is very rare and only happens with live virus, like when a person gets a nasal swab. I’m not convinced of that although I suppose when a person goes in to get their flu shot, they may breathe in live virus at the same time from nasal swabs also being given in the same place. In any case, I have concerns about shedding and so I take precautions. Whether you do or don’t, that’s up to you. I’ve included a quote from the Center for Disease Control at the end of this article, on the subject of vaccine shedding.

For those who choose not to have a flu shot, I have some tips that may help you limit exposure to the attenuated virus being shed all over the place and the live virus breathed out after nasal swabs.

1. Stay away from places that offer flu shots, especially when the first flu shots offered signs pop up. That will be when the throngs arrive for their shots. I just go in places that give flu shots unless I can’t help it. If I do, I stay clear of the pharmacy. However, if the pharmacy is all the way in the back, then everyone who gets the shots walks right back up through the front so it becomes a mute point.

2. When going into areas likely to be full of attenuated virus and live virus from nasal swabs, I first apply tea tree oil around my ears and lymph nodes and take a q-tip and apply Wally’s Organic Ear Oil inside the ears. This provides a layer of protection from airborne virus entering through the ear cavity.

2. I sanitize hands immediately before touching any door or product inside the store. I sanitize again when I have left the store.

3. I take large doses of vitamin c powder, mixed with a superfood drink, to boost immune response, make sure I have my probiotics every single day (also to boost immune response, since most of our immune system is in the colon), drink lots of pure water and take oregano gel caps at first sign of any flu or cold symptoms.

4. I ask people I live with to tell me when they get their flu shot. You may have better luck with that simple request than I’ve had. People who don’t believe the unvaccinated are at risk tend to just ignore the request. It’s an odd phenomenon. Even if a person doesn’t believe they are putting me at risk (they are), I don’t think it’s too much to ask for a heads up. Like I said, maybe you will have roommates willing to inform you so that you can take extra precautions for a few days afterward.

I see a pattern of my roommate getting sick after her flu shot and then, of course, I get sick right afterwards. She doesn’t see that pattern and it may be due to having to have the shot to work. If it’s required at your work, I guess you just kinda ignore the risks for the job.

If you are questioning the efficacy of flu shots or you would rather take natural protective measures, I have some more info on my website:

Flu Shot Alternatives

Flu Prevention Tips

“Live Attenuated Influenza Vaccines SOURCE: CDC Website
Shedding, transmission, and stability of vaccine viruses: Data indicate that both children and adults vaccinated with LAIV can shed vaccine viruses after vaccination, although in lower amounts than occur typically with shedding of wild-type influenza viruses. Rarely, shed vaccine viruses can be transmitted from vaccine recipients to unvaccinated persons. However, serious illnesses have not been reported among unvaccinated persons who have been infected inadvertently with vaccine viruses. One study of 197 children aged 8 through 36 months in a child care center assessed transmissibility of vaccine viruses from 98 vaccinated children to the 99 unvaccinated children; 80% of vaccine recipients shed one or more virus strains (mean duration: 7.6 days). One influenza B vaccine virus strain isolate was recovered from a placebo recipient and was confirmed to be vaccine-type virus. The influenza B virus isolate retained the cold-adapted, temperature-sensitive, attenuated phenotype. The placebo recipient from whom the influenza B vaccine virus strain was isolated had symptoms of a mild upper respiratory illness. The estimated probability of acquiring vaccine virus after close contact with a single LAIV recipient in this population was 1%–2% (317).

Studies assessing shedding of vaccine virus have been based on viral cultures or RT-PCR detection of vaccine viruses in nasal aspirates from LAIV recipients. A study of 345 subjects aged 5 through 49 years who received LAIV indicated that 30% had detectable virus in nasal secretions obtained by nasal swabbing. The duration of virus shedding and the amount of virus shed was inversely correlated with age, and maximal shedding occurred within 2 days of vaccination. Symptoms reported after vaccination, including runny nose, headache, and sore throat, did not correlate with virus shedding (318). Other smaller studies have reported similar findings (319,320). In an open-label study of 200 children aged 6 through 59 months who received a single dose of LAIV, shedding of at least one vaccine virus was detected on culture in 79% of children, and was more common among the younger recipients (89% of children aged 6 through 23 months compared with 69% of children aged 24 through 59 months) (321). The incidence of shedding was highest on day 2 postvaccination. Mean duration of shedding was 2.8 days (3.0 days and 2.7 days for the younger and older age groups, respectively); shedding detected after 11 days postvaccination was uncommon and nearly all instances occurred among children aged 6 through 23 months (an age group for which LAIV is not licensed). Titers of shed virus were low (321). Vaccine virus was detected from nasal secretions in one (2%) of 57 HIV-infected adults who received LAIV compared with none of 54 HIV-negative participants (322), and in three (13%) of 24 HIV-infected children compared with seven (28%) of 25 children who were not HIV-infected (323).”